Index Pages Not Appearing in Google Pages from the UK

Auto Date Saturday, November 25th, 2006

I was quite surprised to find that our index page for southbourne.com had disappeared from Google’s Pages from the UK but not the regular Google.co.uk. It has been quite baffling to say the least. For years now we have played it quite straight and not done anything out of the ordinary that would get us banned or manually flagged for inspection. All of a sudden this hits us, and was noticed after traffic and customer enquiries dropped off, I did some investigation and have not turned up anything that could account for why this happening, many theories and rumours abound but nothing concrete.

My first port of call was to check our site for anything unusual, nothing found, I checked our outbound links and could not find anything we were linking that would cause this a ban. We don’t have many outbound links and the few we do have are all relevant. A couple of companies that we create icons for and link to them, after all, they are in the graphic design business and we do occasional work with these particular companies. Another link to a Danish SEO friend, a link to W3C, some accessibility stuff, a blog we own on the subject matter of mobile SEO and other mobile web related information, this blog which is our discussion blog, and our portfolio of work and clients. It was mentioned to me because our work is diverse that the links in our portfolio are pointing to off-topic areas. This I do not believe for an instance would affect us after all we built those websites and link to them as a vote of confidence in our work and in the client. I feel pretty disgusted that we now have to put NOINDEX tags in the META, just in case…
I wrote Google through its sitemaps webmaster tools area but have received no reply as of yet.
We have been developing websites as a limited company now for 4 years and before that another 4 years totalling 8 years of web development experience added to this, are more years working for other web agencies, we are not new-comers to the land of web development. To be treated heavy handed like this and be at the mercy of another company does not sit well with us. I went to a meeting this evening with some SME’s and a few webmasters some from larger new media agencies and some from mid-sized and we were all in agreement about the detrimental effect that this could have on our line of work and given all of us now are creating sites to be standards compliant we don’t expect to be punished.

I did some Googling for the others who may have been affected by this and turned up a few URL’s there are a few words here by Graywolf Google Dropping Sites and another johnon.com banished from the Google kingdom. Again nothing concrete to pin this down, could it be a glitch in their program? I know this year there seems to be problems with their new algorithm, is something else afoot? I really don’t know, we still appear in the main index which is a good thing as it still holds the pipeline open for new business nationally and internationally, but not being in the pages of the UK has had an effect. I had a look on Matt Cutts blog for anything that might hint at Pages from the UK and the de-indexing of sites but could not find anything in the posts I read. I’ll keep checking my Sitemaps area for a reply to this… if it comes!

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8 Responses to “Index Pages Not Appearing in Google Pages from the UK”

  1. graywolf Says:
    November 25th, 2006 at 7:57 am

    I can see you from here

    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=305369531&size=o

  2. Vincent Says:
    November 25th, 2006 at 9:15 am

    Graywolf thanks for that, then this has just resolved itself, the last two weeks our index page dropped completely off and even earlier today we were still not there… I must admit posting this then seeing your screenshot is highly unusual, I wrote the above post just after I checked pages from the UK, I then posted it here much later.
    I guess I can assume that it is a glitch within Google and nothing we had done. I am now going to lift the NOINDEX tag off our portfolio and see what happens though I can’t for the hell of me figure we would get grief over linking to our client base.
    Again much appreciated ;-)

  3. John Andrews Says:
    November 25th, 2006 at 9:36 am

    I see you almost all supplemental in g.co.uk from here. I see remnants of this: http://southbourneinternet.m3w.co.uk as well.

  4. Vincent Says:
    November 25th, 2006 at 10:01 am

    Not sure I am following you there John, the URL in question was southbourne.com and not this one.
    As for the M3W link that may have been caused by both sites being the same folder structure or IP, I will certainly look into this.

    Thanks for the heads up.

  5. Frank Says:
    January 21st, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Hi,

    I see this blog is over a year old but it is relevant to a problem I have been having recently. My .com domain is appearing in google.co.uk but not in pages from the UK. I see you have resolved your problem, how did you fix it?
    I’ve set my geographic location to UK with google webmasters tools and gave my actual busniess address in the UK to be located on google maps and still not appearing in UK pages.

  6. Robin Goad Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Hi- we recently published some research that showed 1 in 7 people searching google UK chose the ‘pages from the uk’ option.

    More info here:

    http://weblogs.hitwise.com/robin-goad/2008/04/how_popular_is_googles_pages_from__the_uk_search_option.html

    Thanks, Robin Goad
    Research Director, Hitwise

  7. David Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Hi - we have a similar problem. My “.com” site is visible when you search Google “web”, but not if you select “Pages from UK”. Is there a solution to this?

  8. Vincent Says:
    August 13th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    Hi David, yes this was fixed a long while ago and it was problems with Google’s index. However, looking at yours there are a couple of good reasons why you are not appearing in the search engine index under .co.uk.

    1. Firstly you are duplicating content. The two websites are identical. You do not need two identical websites. I would 301 redirect the other .co.uk domain to .com, this way anyway ever types in .co.uk it will open up in the .com website. What you are now can be construed as a type of spam. Even though I believe this was not the intention.

    2. .co.uk is showing as a free site on UK2net not the best idea in the world. While this will not get you banned, it looks bad for Andover Sound and UK2NET gets free advertising on your back.

    I would definitely redirect via .htaccess so it shows .com

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